Reliants - Offshore 40s Marketplace

Sisterships for Sale

Are you interested in buying a Rhodes Reliant or Offshore 40? 

These boats are 35 to 45 years old most have had varying degees of restoration.  Prices of these boats vary a great deal, depending on condition, equipment, extent and quality of restoration, and circumstances of sale.  Increasingly, the range of prices has expanded, with some boats deteriorating and become close to worthless, while others have been professionally restored and are now showing prices that are referenced by the price of new boats.

At the bottom of the market, one abandoned boat, out of the water for 10 years, traded recently at $10,000  The new owner got her sailing in three years.  Another sistership was picked up at sheriff's sale/auction for less than that to cover unpaid boatyard bills.  She had been exposed to the elements for years, and her interior bulkheads and much else suffered damage.  Restoration took about two years of hard work, and her proud owner is now sailing a beautiful boat.   Yet another was picked up for $3,000 from a widow, eager to dispose of her.  The boat had been out of the water and partially disassembled for many years, and the main mast had "disappeared" at the boat yard. 

In the middle of the market, sisterships have traded in the  30's and 40's and present their new owners with the challenges of deck, bulkhead, and other major restoration.   Many boats have been substantially restored already; and  their prices are higher, reflecting these restorations.  Well equiped boats with partial restoration  but still in need of deck work might be in the 40's to 50's.   If the decks have been replaced and the boat has been repowered, the price might be in the 70's-100.  Beautifully maintained and restored Reliants with modern equipment have sold in the  $110-130 K range in the last couple of years.

At the top end of this market, a few owners have invested substantially in elaborate, professional restorations.   At least four boats have been professionally, fully restored (structurally as well as cosmetically), at costs from $250K to $800K.  Their goal is to have a boat that is essentially new.  Their benchmarks are the prices of new boats being produced today for a professionally restored (by Hinkley) Bermuda 40. They are confident that a like-new Rhodes Reliant or Offshore 40 is a nicer boat than the competition, at those prices.   One such restored boat was listed at $375K, another at  $250K.  One of these elaborately restored boats sold for $220K, establishing a new price level for these boats (at a time of a mediocre market).

More Offshore 40s were built than Reliants, so generally there are more Offshore 40s on the market than Reliants.  Reliants appear to be priced a little above the Offshore 40 prices.

As a general rule, if you want to do-it-yourself, you might be able to find a boat at the low end of the price scale by searching from boat yard to boat yard, asking if any have been abandoned.   It might not be advertised because a "project boat" would not generate enough broker's commission to be worth advertising. 

Even if you provide the labor, however, the costs of materials and equipment is substantial and can easily exceed the purchase price of the boat.   If you want a boat yard to do the work, it probably is sensible to buy at the higher end of the price scale where most of the restoration is done already. 

Of course, if you are thinking of making an offer on a sistership, have the boat surveyed before buying; BUT beware that surveyers generally do not destroy things and sometimes don't move things, so they can't really probe vigorously into potential problem areas, and interpretation of data is not a precise science.  In one case of a sistership, an initial survey concluded she was in good shape.  A second survey indicated serious blister problems.  But a third surveyor thought it wasn't so bad.  In general, boats that have been continuously in warm tropical water are much more vulnerable to blister problems and metal deterioration than boats kept in northern waters and hauled out seasonally.  The Handbook of Maintenance and Upgrades has a detailed discussion of the "normal" maintenance issues that these boats (and pretty much any boat of this age)  face.

In very rough terms, about 150 sistersips exist.  If on the average owners keep them for 10-20 years, this would imply that 5-10 percent would enter the market place each year, i.e. about 7-15 sisterships.  My incomplete records of transactions are in line with these numbers.

The information provided above and below  is "to the best of my knowledge," but certainly is not guaranteed.
 



These sisterships are thought to be for sale, as of Jan. 25, 2012.
East Coast | West Coast | South | Inland Lakes | Europe | Abandoned
 
 

NORTH, CENTRAL EAST COAST

Offshore 40, 2 cabin E series yawl 1969
GYPSY New York City, asking $65 K,    (March 9, 2011)
Circumnavigated, 1970-74, 2,000 lb extra lead ballast.
Good condition, well equipped.   photo from front   Looking to the cockpit
Contact: Call owner Walter at 718-318-2167 

Offshore 40, 2 cabin sloop 1969
FLASH, New London, CT, $65.9 K  (Aug 23, 2010)
Good condition  photoboats.com ad
Contact:  Call owner Charlie at 617-699-2319

Rhodes Reliant, 1965
FOLK SONG (Mystic CT) $114 K, (Sept. 28, 2010)
Beautifully maintained, circumnavigated years ago.
Yachtworld ad      Brokered by Toby Halsey of R.B. Rodgers Yachts in Noank, CT
For detailed information contact Dan at  860-536-8983 or danvanw5"at"gmail.com

Rhodes Reliant, 1965
WINDIGO (Narragansett Bay RI) $145 K, (April 2010) Excellet condition
Contact Dave Toombs,  LION YACHTS (203) 209-0943

Offshore 40, 2 cabin sloop, 1972
CHATHAM RHODES, Cataumet MA, $58K (Jan 24, 2012)
Yachtworld ad

Offshore 40, 3 cabin yawl 1970
LEGACY, St. Johns, Newfoundland;  asking C$59.9 K Canadian   (Aug 23,  2010)
Excellent condition reflecting systematic maintenance.
Photos:  hull - deck - below
CONTACT  Winston Fiander  709-895-6578  email: wfiander"at"nf.sympatico.ca for more photos and equipment list.
Yachtworld.com  listing
 

WEST COAST

Offshore 40, 2 cabin yawl (E type), 1970
MOSHULU   (San Pedro, CA), $90K (June 25, 2010)
Recently replaced rigging, electronics; excellent condition   photo
Contact owner Jim at: jamhaley"at"cox.net

Offshore 40, 2 cabin yawl (E type), 1976
BALLERINA (Mazatlan, Mexico), US$ 59K (Jan 25, 2012)
Yachtworld ad
 

SOUTH

Offshore 40  2 cabin sloop, 1969
SISKIWIT  (Charlestown SC), $78.9 K (Sept 28, 2011)
See owner's website at http://siskiwit.com/sale.php#content

Rhodes Reliant, 1965
MOONGLOW (Punta Gorda Florida) $195 K, (Aug 23, 2010)
Fully, beautifully restored and updated.
Yacthworld.com listing
Mark Katz, Yacht Perfection 941-637-8111 or cell 941-276-5028

Offshore 40 3 cabin sloop, 1970
ELYSIA (St. Martin, Caribbean), $55K,  (Jan 24, 2012)
Nicely maintained
Contact: Luke 631-599-8325 or email: navigationtwo"at"aol.com.

BRETT ASHLEY Offshore 40, 3 cabin yawl,  1969
  (Trinidad), $95 K  (Aug 23, 2010)
lovely boat
Yachtworld.com listing
Contact: David Toombs, 203-254-2471
 
 

INLAND LAKES
 

EUROPE

Rhodes Reliant 3 cabin sloop, 
DRUMDOE  (France) EUR 75 K (USD roughly $104 K)  (Oct 12, 2010)
Has been well maintained and appears to be in excellent condition.
Exceptional marine berth near St Tropez to be added if needed.
Contact: www.yachtbroker.fr , Pierre-andre Jeanne

Rhodes Reliant, 2 cabin sloop, 1965
Lulu Belle  (France) EUR 60 K  (April 3,  2009)
Different layout from other Reliants:  single aft companionway, quarter berth to port, nav station to starboard instead of private aft cabin.  The rest of the interior layout is standard.  Also, she has a new mast with a double-spreader rig.
Yacht World listing
 
 
 

Abandoned Rhodes Reliants and Offshore 40s needing restoration:

none known at present

Special Resources:

Lion Yachts (David Toombs) originated the idea of the Reliant and has been importing and brokering Cheoy Lee yachts for over 45 years.  David brings vast experience with Cheoy Lee boats to people buying and selling these boats..

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