Reliants - Offshore 40s Marketplace

Sisterships for Sale

Are you interested in buying a Rhodes Reliant or Offshore 40? 

These boats are thirty-or forty something years old, and either due for or been through some phases of their "thirty-year maintenance cycle."  Prices of these boats vary a great deal, depending on condition, equipment, extent and quality of restoration, and circumstances of sale.  Increasingly, the range of prices has expanded, with some boats deteriorating and become close to worthless, while others have been professionally restored and are now showing prices that are referenced by the price of new boats.

At the bottom of the market, one abandoned boat, out of the water for 10 years, traded recently at $10,000  The new owner got her sailing in three years.  Another sistership was picked up at sheriff's sale/auction for less than that to cover unpaid boatyard bills.  She had been exposed to the elements for years, and her interior bulkheads and much else suffered damage.  Restoration took about two years of hard work, and her proud owner is now sailing a beautiful boat.   Yet another was picked up for $3,000 from a widow, eager to dispose of her.  The boat had been out of the water and partially disassembled for many years, and the main mast had "disappeared" at the boat yard. 

In the middle of the market, sisterships have traded in the  30's and 40's and present their new owners with the challenges of deck, bulkhead, and other major restoration.   Many boats have been substantially restored already; and  their prices are higher, reflecting these restorations.  Well equiped boats with partial restoration  but still in need of deck work might be in the 40's to 50's.   If the decks have been replaced and the boat has been repowered, the price might be in the 70's-100.  Beautifully restored Reliants with  modern equipment have been was been purchased at $110-120 K in the last couple of years.

At the top end of this market, a few owners have invested substantially in elaborate, professional restorations.   At least three boats have been professionally, fully restored (structurally as well as cosmetically), at costs from $250K to $800K.  Their goal is to have a boat that is essentially new.  Their benchmarks are the prices of new boats being produced today or a professionally restored (by Hinkley) Bermuda 40. They are confident that a like-new Reliant or Offshore 40 is a nicer boat than the competition, at those prices.   One such restored boat is listed at $375K, another at  $250K.

More Offshore 40s were built than Reliants, so generally there are more Offshore 40s on the market than Reliants.  Reliants appear to be priced a little above the Offshore 40 prices.

As a general rule, if you want to do-it-yourself, you might be able to find a boat at the low end of the price scale by searching from boat yard to boat yard, asking if any have been abandoned.   It might not be advertised because a "project boat" would not generate enough broker's commission to be worth advertising. 

Even if you provide the labor, however, the costs of materials and equipment is substantial and can easily exceed the purchase price of the boat.   If you want a boat yard to do the work, it probably is sensible to buy at the higher end of the price scale where most of the restoration is done already. 

Of course, if you are thinking of making an offer on a sistership, have the boat surveyed before buying; BUT beware that surveyers generally do not destroy things and sometimes don't move things, so they can't really probe vigorously into potential problem areas, and interpretation of data is not a precise science.  In one case of a sistership, an initial survey concluded she was in good shape.  A second survey indicated serious blister problems.  But a third surveyor thought it wasn't so bad.  In general, boats that have been continuously in warm tropical water are much more vulnerable to blister problems that boats kept in northern waters and hauled out seasonally.  The Handbook of Maintenance and Upgrades has a detailed discussion of the "normal" maintenance issues that these boats (and pretty much any boat of this age)  face.

In very rough terms, about 150 sistersips exist.  If on the average owners keep them for 10-20 years, this would imply that 5-10 percent would enter the market place each year, i.e. about 7-15 sisterships.  My incomplete records of transactions are in line with these numbers.

Whatever information here is to the best of my knowledge, but certainly is not guaranteed.
 



These sisterships are thought to be for sale, as of  June 1,  2008
East Coast | West Coast | South | Inland Lakes | Europe | Abandoned
 
 

NORTH, CENTRAL EAST COAST

Rhodes Reliant, 1965
OWL (Maine) $375 K, (Feb. 26, 2008)
Extraordinary restoration, the equivalent of a brand new boat.
Yacht World Listing
Contact East Coast Yacht Sales, Yarmouth, ME 04096 USA   207-846-4545

Rhodes Reliant, 1965
WINDIGO (Narragansett Bay RI) $112.5 K, (Nov. 20, 2006)
Excellet condition
Contact Dave Toombs,  LION YACHTS (203) 209-0943

Offshore 40, 3 cabin yawl 1970
LEGACY, St. Johns, Newfoundland;  asking C$100K Canadian   (Aug 6, 2005)
Excellent condition reflecting systematic maintenance, full list of equipment.
CONTACT  Winston Fiander  709-895-6578  email: wfiander"at"nf.sympatico.ca
 

WEST COAST

Offshore 40 2 cabin (E style) yawl, 1974
LIFT (Port Townsend OR), $69.5K (March 20, 2008)
Yachtworld listing link
I Tel 360-379-4980

Offshore 40 3 cabin sloop, 1971
EAGLE  (Portland OR), $50K (May 30, 2007)
Gorgeous restoration of bright work, well equipped
Yachtworld listing link
Interstate Yacht Sales   Tel (503) 935-2211

Offshore 40, 2 cabin sloop, 1968
MURITAI (Sausalito CA), asking $49 K  (May 26, 2007)
Photos look very good. 
Contact:  Marotta Yachts of Sausalito  Toll-free 877-444-1847  Tel 415-331-6200
Yachtworld listing link

Offshore 40, 3 cabin sloop, 1968
SEA YA (S.F. Bay area), asking price pending  (April 6, 2007)
Restoration work was started but interrupted.  More details soon. 
Contact info: will be announced 

Offshore 40, 2 cabin sloop, 1966
SPERANZA  (Fiji Island, Vuda Point Marina), asking (?)  (June 16, 2007)
Lead ballast, proven offshore cruiser. 
Get a head start on your Pacific Ocean or circumnavigation cruise.
Contact: For price and contact information of owner, contact: "Dave Starr" <dnsvector3@hotmail.com>
 

SOUTH

Rhodes Reliant, 1967
STAR (Charlestown SC) $195 K, (June 1, 2008)
Fully, professionally restored and updated. 
Yachtworld.com listing    Tel 410-923-1400

Rhodes Reliant, 1965
MOONGLOW (Punta Gorda Florida) $250 K, (Nov. 22, 2006)
Fully, beautifully restored and updated.
Mark Katz, Yacht Perfection 941-637-8111 or cell 941-276-5028

Offshore 40, 3 cabin sloop, 1964
ANTERES  (Ft. Pierce FL), $38.5K  (May 30, 2008, motivated seller)
yacthworld.com listing    photos indicate she is in excellent condition
Broker: East West Yachts  866-370-4072

Offshore 40, 2 cabin sloop, 1968
CHRISTINE  (Indiantown FL), $59  (May 30, 2008)
main cabin has two settees, two pilot berths.
yacthworld.com listing    photos indicate she is in excellent condition
Broker: Advantage Yacht Sales & Service  toll-free 866-370-4074 

Offshore 40, 3 cabin sloop, 1967 MORNING STAR  (St. Thomas), $70K  (March. 20, 2008
Contact: Dave McCall
Maritime Yacht Sales yachtworld listing
tel: 877-302-9572   www.maritimeyachtsales.com

Offshore 40, 3 cabin sloop, 1970
ELYSIA  (BVI -Tortola), $60K  (Dec. 22, 2007)
Good condition, well equiped:
Fiberglass decks, anodized aluminum spars, new rigging, 
VHF, Icom 706 Ham radio, monitor windvane, 
Kiss wind generator,  and solar panels.
Note: Owner willing to carry financing with $20 K down and real estate as collateral.
Contact info: Richard <rdtaylor "at" frontier.net>
yachtworld listing

INLAND LAKES

Rhodes Reliant, 1970
WHISPER (Bay City Michigan) $60 K, (Oct. 17, 2006)
Beautiful, thorough refit about 85 percent finished.
Call or email for details
mailto:jgw"at"speednetllc.com
         phone: 989-482-1038
 

EUROPE
 
 

Abandoned Rhodes Reliants and Offshore 40s needing restoration:

none known at present

Special Resources:

Lion Yachts (David Toombs) originated the idea of the Reliant and has been importing and brokering Cheoy Lee yachts for over 35 years.  David brings vast experience with Cheoy Lee boats to people buying and selling these boats..

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P O Box 278
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